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April 1

Portal:Current events/2025 April 1
April 1, 2025 (2025-04-1) (Tuesday)

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(Closed) NBA fight

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Minnesota Target (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A violent altercation broke out during an NBA game on March 31, 2025 between the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Detroit Pistons at Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota. The incident, which drew comparisons to the 2004 Malice at the Palace, resulted in the ejection of 6 players and 2 coaches. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A fight between multiple coaches and players from the Minnesota Timberwolves and Detroit Pistons resulted in Donte DiVincenzo (guard), Naz Reid (center), Timberwolves assistant coach Pablo Prigioni, Ron Holland (basketball) (forward), Isaiah Stewart (center), Marcus Sasser (guard), and Pistons head coach J.B. Bickerstaff. being ejected.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Detroit Pistons: Ron Holland (basketball) (forward), Isaiah Stewart (center), Marcus Sasser (guard), and head coach J.B. Bickerstaff. And, sparked debates on player conduct and security measures in the National Basketball Association.
News source(s):
Credits:

• Nominated by CostalCal (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: A fight between multiple different players and head coaches in the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Detroit Pistons in the National Basketball Association is going viral through the media. And, is drawing comparisons to the 2004 Malice at the Palace incident. CostalCal (talk) 02:54, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose, fights always happen at sporting events. 675930s (talk) 03:04, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose minor story. Already out of the sports news cycle. Natg 19 (talk) 03:26, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

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March 31

Portal:Current events/2025 March 31

March 31, 2025 (2025-03-31) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Kharkiv strikes Six Russian drones hit Kyivskyi district of Kharkiv, Ukraine, damaging several buildings and injuring three people. (Ukrainska Pravda) Middle Eastern crisis The Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy seizes two foreign oil tankers in the Persian Gulf and is towing the vessels to the country’s Bushehr port, claiming they are part of a "fuel smuggling network". It is currently unknown what countries the vessels belong to. (Al Arabiya) Business and economy Japanese restaurant chain Sukiya orders the temporary closure of almost all of its nearly 2,000 locations in the country after finding a rat and a cockroach in its food. (AP) (CBS News) Disasters and accidents 2025 Myanmar earthquake The State Administration Council declares a period of national mourning in Myanmar to last until April 6 as the death toll from the earthquake last week rises to over 3,050 people. (AFP via Barron's) The recovery operation of the U.S. Army M88 vehicle that sank in Lithuanian swamps on Pabradė Training Area finishes after five days. Lithuanian president Gitanas Nauseda says that 3 out of 4 missing Americans are found dead, with the last person still missing. (DW) (LRT) Five people are killed and four are injured after an explosion at a coal mine in Degaña, Asturias, Spain. (BBC News) International relations Australia–North Korea relations The Royal Australian Air Force deploys a long-range maritime patrol aircraft P-8 Poseidon to Kadena Air Base in Okinawa Prefecture, Japan, to monitor illegal North Korean maritime activities in the Yellow Sea, including weapons shipments prohibited under international sanctions. (NK News) Brazil–Syria relations Brazilian police arrest a Syrian consulate employee in Brazil after discovering over 600 smuggled electronic devices and other luxury goods valued at over US$700,000 in his diplomatic vehicle during a highway inspection in Ponta Porã. (G1) Moldova–Russia relations The Moldovan foreign affairs ministry expels three Russian diplomats and declares them persona non grata after accusing the Russian embassy in Chișinău of helping a Moldovan pro-Russia parliament member escape to Transnistria. (DW) (The Kyiv Independent) Proposed United States acquisition of Greenland, Denmark–United States relations Newly elected Prime Minister of Greenland Jens-Frederik Nielsen rules out Greenland joining the United States while he is in office. (AP) Law and crime 2025 Nepalese pro-monarchy movement Supporters of former King of Nepal Gyanendra clash with riot police in Kathmandu, Nepal, leaving two people dead and several others injured. (AP) Killing of Zvi Kogan A court in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, sentences three people to death for killing Israeli-Moldovan rabbi Zvi Kogan in 2024. A fourth accomplice who aided in the murder receives a life sentence. (AP) National Rally assistants affair National Rally politician Marine Le Pen is convicted of embezzlement and banned from running for political office for five years, meaning she cannot stand in the next French presidential election. (France24)

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Marine Le Pen convicted

Articles: Marine Le Pen (talk · history · tag) and National Rally assistants affair (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Three time French presidential candidate Marine Le Pen is convicted on charges of embezzlement and barred from seeking public office for five years. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Marine Le Pen, the runner up in the 2022 French presidential election, is convicted of embezzlement and banned from standing in elections for five years
News source(s): CNN, Le Monde
Credits:

• Nominated by 331dot (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The most popular politician in France(by some measures) and likely candidate again, convicted of a crime and prevented from running for president in 2027 seems worth including. 331dot (talk) 12:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment I think it would benefit from more than one paragraph on this. There's no detail. She was sentenced to prison - was that suspended? We only cover the conviction. Secretlondon (talk) 12:55, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

The details concerning MLP have been added to her BLP. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 21:23, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose criminal getting sentenced is hardly big news. It's not in the news worldwide either, even here in the US with all the surge of popularity of certain far-right/fascist/neo-nazi politicians, i had to scroll all the way to the middle to find a mention of hers on the https://www.nytimes.com/ 2A02:C6C1:A:28E:0:0:0:22 (talk) 13:08, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

It's the top story on the BBC News right now, with an accompanying 'unfolding story' page. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:09, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Don't suppose "politician is a criminal" is news any more? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Polling has her winning both the first round and the second round of the presidential election. She's no ordinary criminal. 331dot (talk) 13:21, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Well if she's been barred from running until 2030 then she can't... Aydoh8^[contribs] 14:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

That's kind of the point of why this is important...? User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 21:10, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Convictions have been posted on ITN before.Sportsnut24 (talk) 14:39, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

It's very big in the UK. Secretlondon (talk) 14:49, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Weak oppose on notability for now - Le Pen was the frontrunner in French right-wing politics and a conviction like this was unexpected to me - but since they were never properly in office, I can't give my full support as I would to, say, Trump. Departure– (talk) 13:14, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Needs work There's a specific article about this matter: National Rally assistants affair. The article about Marine Le Pen doesn't work for me currently -- it causes Chrome to crash when I try to open it.

And I don't like the proposed blurb as it just calls the offence embezzlement when it seems more political/technical than that. It's not clear why the people that they nominated as assistants were not acceptable.

Andrew🐉(talk) 13:28, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Sources use the word "embezzlement" or "embezzled EU funds" so that's why I did. 331dot (talk) 13:34, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Embezzlement to me suggests personal gain whereas this seems to be more of a party matter as Le Pen is just one of 21 party officials who have been caught violating some technicality. It doesn't seem to be a hand-in-the-till kind of thing. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:33, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Misappropriation would probably be less confusing, as basically the people paid (by the EU) to work at the EU parliament were working at the National Front party HQ on national politics and campaigning. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 21:59, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

No problem linking to the article about the scandal itself instead of Le Pen. 331dot (talk) 13:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose per 2A02:C6C1:A:28E:0:0:0:22 Shaneapickle (talk) 13:41, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose there is no target article for the arrest, therefore not ITN worthy. Scuba 14:20, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure where that's a requirement, but I've already said we can link to the article about the scandal itself. 331dot (talk) 14:29, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

obvious oppose knew it'd be nominated. It is in the news, but there's also an appeal pending and it's sub-national. doubt we'd post former potf sarkozy due soon.Sportsnut24 (talk) 14:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

it's not sub-national, it's national. Secretlondon (talk) 14:48, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Sportsnut24 We don't wait for all appeals to be exhausted (which can take years) before posting a conviction. It'd be stale at the end of that time. It's not "sub-national". She is a national figure. When Trump was convicted by the State of New York, that was posted even though New York is "sub-national". Sarkozy has already been convicted of crimes. 331dot (talk) 14:48, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose She's not an ex-President and there's still a legal route of appeal. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 14:51, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  This is akin to keeping Donald Trump out of the 2024 election beforehand(which was attempted and failed). She's the leading candidate in the polls(in the first and second round). We don't wait for all appeals to be exhausted before posting something; it would be stale at the end of that time("should have posted it when it happened!"). I'm not understanding most of the resistance here; I guess ITN is getting away from me. 331dot (talk) 14:56, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  I'm not understanding the lack of consistency too. Recent examples of postings include the arrest of the Turkish mayor, the arrest of the South Sudanese VP and the arrest of the Philippines former president. Those all seemed quite political and they were arrests not convictions. This French matter seems quite political too but at least it's a conviction, not just an arrest. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:15, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Just as a comment, we know nearly every conviction will be appealed, but for purposes of ITN that initial conviction is sufficient evidence for posting, and if the conviction does get overturned we would also have reason to post that. (I believe we did that we Cosby recently). I'm not suggesting that's a reason to post this, but we should not let the fact that a conviction is getting appealed be reason to not post if all other considerations were met. Masem (t) 15:12, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Worth nothing that, per Reuters, "Appeals in France can take months or even years", and "Le Pen's five-year public office ban cannot be suspended by appeal". Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 20:20, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

It cannot be suspended during the appeal process, but of course it could be shortened or rescinded by a successful appeal. This is what happened with Juppé... -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 23:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support in principle - she came second in the most recent election, and opinion polls show her as having a good chance of winning the next one, so this isn't some obscure politician. We do have a specific article about the case: National Rally assistants affair, however it's pretty brief at present. That article should be brought up to postable standard and used as the bold link. I've proposed an altblurb above. Modest Genius ^talk 15:10, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support I'm actually surprised there is so much opposition to this. This is France - a G7 country, nuclear power, permanent member of the UN Security Council etc and Le Pen was leading the polls of prospective presidential candidates for 2027. There's always going to be a cloud over things like this as to whether they are in fact political stitch ups. As for appeals I don't see that as a reason not to post now, the conviction is already beyond all reasonable doubt and the bar from office is being applied from this point. I can't help but feel some of the opposition here is a pro-Anglophone bias and while that may be justifiable to some extent in our editorial decisions on the English Wikipedia this is a big story from a world power. 3142 (talk) 15:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support on notability, as this is quite major news internationally, especially in context to both illiberal politics and Europe, both of which are some of the dominant topics of geopolitics. PrimalMustelid (talk) 15:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support Alternative blurb clearly important and got international attention, unlike original blub with attached article Braganza (talk) 16:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Strong support altblurb It's an unusual event that is getting widespread global coverage in the reliable sources even outside of France - so, why not? As the IP address oppose votes itself points out, it is getting covered by the New York Times. But in case that wasn't enough, see also Times of India, Sydney Herald, Times of Israel, Toronto Star. All of those publications have not only the linked articles, but now multiple articles about the ramifications of this arrest. This should be blurbed. Flip^andFlopped ツ 16:55, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support altblurb – certainly in the news, and well covered in the article. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 17:42, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Strong support altblurb - Major political figure in a G7 country, leading in polls for the next presidential election, finished second in 2022, now convicted and barred from office. Widely covered in international news media. --PJ Geest (talk) 17:56, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Le Pen article has a few unsourced statements. Also would suggest noting twelve others were also convicted in the same trial on the blurb. Masem (t) 18:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose. She's not a president or ex-president, so why is this notable enough for ITN? There are countless officials of actual executive governments who get convicted without receiving an ITN, and Marine Le Pen lacks even those political credentials.

675930s (talk) 18:32, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per above additionally she is not a head of state and the event did not have a separate article.

QalasQalas (talk) 19:11, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

QalasQalas, Nominations do not necessarily need separate articles. Where did this incorrect notion appear from? I feel like I have seen it repeated a lot recently. Curbon7 (talk) 02:09, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Per most of the above. We don't post national political events other than elections or changes in heads of state/government. And she is/was neither. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:50, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  That's not true, Ad Orientem. It's one thing to personally oppose national political events other than elections or changes in heads of state (a potentially defensible position), but objectively speaking, we've posted arrests, arraignments and convictions of major political figures many times in the past, including examples like Trump but also very recently some politicians from Turkey and Sudan. There's no ITN policy rule against it and it wouldn't be a deviation from standard practice to post this, so I don't think that's a fair rationale. Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Strong support – Leading candidate in the upcoming French presidential election barred from running. Le Pen is also internationally known, this has received international reactions and coverage. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 20:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Strong oppose National politician who never held head of state/government position gets convicted of a crime. Yawn. We didn't post Trump's arrest for very similar reasons (which I would have opposed as well, despite him having held both positions in a country with far more media reach than France) – why is Le Pen different? Sure, it's in the news. But that's not what ITN is. Hold ourselves to our standards, please. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 20:54, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  I hesitate to keep reminding people of this across this nom, but you are mistaken. Sure, we didn't post Trump's arrest, but we did post both his arraignment (twice, actually) and his conviction. This nom is for her conviction (similar to the Trump conviction we posted), and not an arrest. If we are "holding ourselves to our standards", we would therefore be posting this... Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:22, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support altblurb, she appears to have been the current favourite in the 2027 election before she was barred from running. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 21:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Comment -- It is correct that the ban on running for office is effective immediately, whereas the 2 years of house arrest and loss of her lower house seat will not take effect until all appeals have been exhausted. It does appear she may lose her departmental council seat immediately, though that is not int'l news. The loss of eligibility for the 2027 presidential race could theoretically see the inside of an appeals court some weeks before the election, but running a campaign under such circumstances seems rather fraught. Cf. 20 minutes (in French)-- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 21:14, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support Nothing prevented us from posting Navalny's conviction in Russia, so please hold ourselves to our standards and post this. Furthermore, she was leading the opinion polls for the next presidential election at the time of her conviction. It seems like there's a wave of harshly eliminating prospective presidential candidates from running for the office. Firstly, Georgescu was barred in Romania, then İmamoğlu was arrested and lost his university degree in Turkey, and now comes Le Pen's conviction in France. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:46, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Cf. Alain Juppé's ineligibility after his criminal conviction. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 23:03, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Question Jog my memory, have we posted Trump being convicted (while not president), because as I see it this is a comparable situation. Kingsif (talk) 23:06, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Kingsif Yes, we did - for his state conviction in New York on May 30, 2024. We further posted his 2023 arraignment in the New York case as well as posted his 2023 indictment in the federal documents case. Unlike this conviction of Le Pen, none of those three actually had the immediate impact of barring him from running again for President in the next election. Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:12, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Former head of state is notable, but did we posted before 2016 earlier than he became president? QalasQalas (talk) 23:20, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Well, before 2016 isn't really a fair comparator, because he was not yet a politician nor was he the presidential candidate in a national election yet. Of course we would not be posting any blurbs about him, just like we would not be posting any blurbs about Le Pen for a period before she had even entered politics. A better comparison would be, if Trump had lost in 2016 and then been arrested some years later, would we post that? Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:25, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Criteria is simple: former head of state but not former runner-up, also failed separate article. QalasQalas (talk) 23:42, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  I disagree, there's no hard policy rule against posting news related to high-profile runner ups (in fact if they're globally "in the news", then criteria would actually fully support posting like any other story), and the scandal from which this conviction stems does have a separate article, albeit which needs some expansion and translation work from its French-language equivalent. Flip^andFlopped ツ 00:01, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose on quality The story is definitely in the news, but the target article is not yet in a state to be posted. Gust Justice (talk) 23:39, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Agreed. Someone just added the expand from French template, which I agree with, but I also need sleep. zzzz.  :) -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 23:55, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support per above. --SpectralIon 23:58, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

March 30

Portal:Current events/2025 March 30

March 30, 2025 (2025-03-30) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Red Sea crisis Israel intercepts a ballistic missile fired from Yemen in the eighth Houthi attack since the Israeli Defense Force resumed the Gaza war. The Houthis claim to have launched three attacks with drones, missiles, and naval forces against the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman in the past 24 hours. (Times of Israel) Disasters and accidents 2025 Myanmar earthquake Structures and infrastructure affected by the 2025 Myanmar earthquake The count of the total amount of destroyed ancient pagodas and religious buildings in Myanmar rises to 61, including the previously unreported Four-Storied Monastery in Inwa, Mandalay Region. (NP) Severe weather and tornadoes break out in the areas between south Indiana and north east Texas, United States. (NYT) Three children are killed and three other people are injured after a tree hits their vehicle near Kalamazoo, Michigan. (AP) A 7.0 Mw earthquake strikes near the island country of Tonga with a 6.1 Mw aftershock. A tsunami warning is issued and later lifted. (AP) International relations Middle Eastern crisis Iranian president Masoud Pezeshkian says that Iran will not have direct negotiations with the U.S. on its nuclear program, but is open for indirect talks to rebuild trust, after U.S. president Donald Trump threatened "bombing" if Iran does not agree to a new nuclear deal. (Al Jazeera) (Reuters) Law and crime A bus driver shoots and kills two passengers on a Miami-Dade Transit bus in Miami Gardens, Florida, United States. (AP) Science and technology German space programme The uncrewed German-built Spectrum orbital rocket is launched in Andøya, Norway, becoming the first orbital rocket to launch from mainland Europe. The rocket stays in the air for just over half a minute before striking the ground and exploding. (The Guardian) (VG)

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RD: Reinaldo Herrera

Article: Reinaldo Herrera (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Venezuelan aristocrat and journalist. NY Times obit published 30 March. Thriley (talk) 18:24, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Not Ready It's a three sentence -20 word - stub. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:53, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

March 29

Portal:Current events/2025 March 29

March 29, 2025 (2025-03-29) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Middle Eastern crisis Gaza war March 2025 Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip The Israeli Defense Forces launch a new ground offensive on Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip. (Al Jazeera) Red Sea crisis March 2025 United States attacks in Yemen One person is killed and four more are injured by U.S. military airstrikes in the Saada Governorate, Yemen. (Yahoo News) Russian invasion of Ukraine Kharkiv strikes A Russian drone attack on Kharkiv, Ukraine, kills two people and injures 30 others, including five children. A shopping centre, multi-story residential buildings, a medical facility, and an office building were among those targeted. (Ukrainska Pravda) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Ten civilians are killed in an alleged anti-insurgents security operation in Katlang, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. The Pakistani government reports that circumstances will be investigated. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2025 Brooklyn Park TBM-700 crash A SOCATA TBM-700 crashes into an unoccupied house in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, United States, killing everyone on board. (FOX9 News) One person is killed and four others are injured in an explosion at a factory in İzmir, Turkey. (Caliber) Law and crime Protests against Donald Trump Protests against Elon Musk, Protests against the second presidency of Donald Trump Protests are held at Tesla dealerships across the United States, Canada, and Europe to protest against DOGE chief and Tesla CEO Elon Musk's role in the second Trump administration. (Taipei Times) (AP) Gaza war protests Security forces open fire at a pro-Palestine march organized by the Islamic Movement of Nigeria, in Abuja, Nigeria, killing five people and arresting 19 more. A policeman is killed in the subsequent clashes. (AP) Four people are injured in a stabbing attack in Trondheim, Norway, with the perpetrator being arrested. (Euro Weekly News) Politics and elections Second Syrian transitional government Syrian President Ahmed al-Sharaa announces the creation of a new transitional government, following the fall of the Bashar al-Assad regime. (Reuters)

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RD: Richard Chamberlain

Article: Richard Chamberlain (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3v9xzw09z0o
Credits:

• Nominated by Fdfexoex (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American actor. Fdfexoex (talk) 16:30, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

• Weak Support The article is well-cited, to the exception of his filmography section, which for the most part is missing accompanying footnotes for all of his listed television or movie appearances. However, for the vast majority of the entries, there is a hyperlink to the corresponding Wiki article which in turn is well-referenced. It would be ideal if the handful of entries without a hyperlinked wiki article (on account of the film either not passing GNG or not having an article yet), at least had a citation though. With this being said, it's a good enough quality article and this issue is relatively minor. Flip^andFlopped ツ 19:36, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
• Not Ready for the usual reason. The tables in particular are in rough shape. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:56, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Solar eclipse of March 29, 2025

Article: Solar eclipse of March 29, 2025 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The first solar eclipse of 2025 is visible from much of Europe and North America. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, CNN, NASA, Times of Israel
Credits:

• Created by SockPuppetForTomruen (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Onemillionthtree (talk · give credit)

 Wikihmdmner (talk) 12:14, 29 March 2025 (UTC)Wikihmdmner}

• Support It's all over the news, getting lots of attention and I just saw it for myself. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:18, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose More than half the article is given to discussion of other eclipses, which I cannot recall being the case for eclipses that we did post. It's nowhere close to quality expected for this. Masem (t) 12:40, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose as per Masem. Most of the article is talking about other eclipses. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 13:26, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• It seems that a lot of our eclipse articles are like that, but that is an issue for a different forum. Natg 19 (talk) 15:40, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• However, when we have posted eclipses in the past, such as Solar eclipse of April 8, 2024 (And specifically considering the state at the end of the day, [1]) shows that a lot more information about the current eclipse should be present. Further from that old version, this massive section on related eclipses has grown massively since last year. Masem (t) 17:13, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Strong oppose I don't see anything distinguishing this in any real way from any other eclipses. Also, it's a partial eclipse but that isn't mentioned in the current blurb proposal. Viewership and being "in the news" doesn't mean much if it doesn't have a real impact; I suspect coverage will massively die down now that the event has concluded. Departure– (talk) 17:43, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

The eclipse was a big hit with our readers yesterday – over quarter of a million of them. That was more than double the level of interest in the earthquake. The topics not getting much attention are the Sudanese items which we are blurbing. Just about no-one is interested in those. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:22, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Reader 'interest' has never been an ITN criteria (the same applies to views). Breakdown of significant treaties and catastrophic earthquakes will always be of much more ITN significance than random eclipses. WP:TOP25 exists, if you want it to be featured on the Main Page start a proposal, but personal interest in pageviews should not be confounded for ITN acceptability. Gotitbro (talk) 09:24, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

We'd get many more clicks if we just posted celebrity news. We're an international encyclopaedia Secretlondon (talk) 14:40, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose A partial solar eclipse covering a miniscule amount of the world population. --SpectralIon 23:15, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support. A good warmup for the next total eclipse visible from here. Count Iblis (talk) 23:41, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose only partial, limited media coverage. I saw this myself but it isn't impactful enough to justify an ITN blurb. Besides, the article mostly describes the sequences it belongs to, not anything unusual about this particular eclipse. Modest Genius ^talk 14:01, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose a routine partial eclipse. Nfitz (talk) 23:11, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per other oppose votes above. History6042😊 (Contact me) 10:37, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - an extremely routine event. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

March 28

Portal:Current events/2025 March 28

March 28, 2025 (2025-03-28) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israeli invasion of Lebanon 2024 Israel–Lebanon ceasefire agreement The Israel Defense Forces strikes southern Beirut, Lebanon, for the first time since November 2024, violating the ceasefire agreement. (CNN) Russian invasion of Ukraine Dnipro strikes A Russian drone attack on Dnipro, Ukraine, kills four people and wounds 19 others. Multiple buildings in the city are reported to be ablaze, including a hotel, resort, a restaurant complex and numerous apartments. (Reuters) Red Sea crisis March 2025 United States attacks in Yemen At least seven people are injured by U.S. military airstrikes in the Yemeni capital city Sanaa. (Euronews) Disasters and accidents 2025 Myanmar earthquake 2025 Bangkok skyscraper collapse An under-construction government office skyscraper collapses in Bangkok, Thailand, killing at least six people and leaving more than 101 others missing and trapped under the rubble. (CTV News) A 7.7 magnitude earthquake strikes Sagaing, Myanmar, with significant damages reported as far away as Bangkok, Thailand. Over 1,000 people are killed in Myanmar and ten more in Thailand. A state of emergency is declared by the Myanmar government. (CNN Live) (NBC News) The Ava Bridge in Mandalay Region, Myanmar, partially collapses as a result of the earthquake. (News18) Russian authorities say that yesterday's sinking of the Sindbad submarine in Hurghada, Egypt, killing six Russians, happened during boarding and not due to a collision as reported. (The National) International relations Proposed United States acquisition of Greenland U.S. Vice President JD Vance and several other senior Trump administration officials visit the Pituffik Space Base, a United States Space Force facility in Greenland. (NPR) Law and crime Arrest of Ekrem İmamoğlu Turkish authorities detain Mehmet Pehlivan, a lawyer representing opposition leader Ekrem İmamoğlu in the ongoing investigation, and later release him. (Reuters)

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(Ready) RD: Heloísa Teixeira

Article: Heloísa Teixeira (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El País obituary
Credits:

• Nominated by Jaguarnik (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Brazilian literary critic Jaguarnik (talk) 17:50, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Short but well-cited enough. Bremps... 02:14, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Support agree with Bremps, no glaring CN issues and contains all the essential information. Tagging ready. Flip^andFlopped ツ 04:01, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Young Scooter

Article: Young Scooter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:28A1:685F:B0BB:8AF4 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Llacb47 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American rapper. 240F:7A:6253:1:28A1:685F:B0BB:8AF4 (talk) 06:59, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Mostly cited. Passable for posting. Bremps... 19:24, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Not Quite Ready but close. The guest appearances table has a bunch of cites needed. Otherwise I think the article appears to be in decent shape. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:01, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

March 27

Portal:Current events/2025 March 27

March 27, 2025 (2025-03-27) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine North Korea has sent 3,000 more soldiers to bolster Russia’s war on Ukraine, South Korea’s military says. (CNN World) Middle Eastern crisis Gaza war March 2025 Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip Hamas announces that an Israeli airstrike has killed Abdel Latif al-Qanou, who served as Hamas' spokesman. (Al Arabiya) Red Sea crisis Israel intercepts two ballistic missiles launched by the Houthis from Yemen. (Reuters) Haitian crisis Gang war in Haiti A Kenyan police officer deployed in Haiti as part of the Multinational Security Support Mission is killed in a suspected gang ambush, according to Haitian authorities. Kenya has confirmed that the officer is missing but has not yet verified his death. (BBC News) Business and economy Tariffs in the second Trump administration 2025 United States trade war with Canada and Mexico Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney says a 25% tariff on automotive imports to the United States is a "direct attack" on his country by the Trump administration and vows to respond. (AP) Japan confirms it has asked the U.S. for an exemption from the new automotive tariffs, saying the 25% tariff on vehicle imports would have a massive negative impact on its automotive industry. Japan is one of the largest exporters of cars to the United States. (Kyodo News) The United States suspends financial contributions to the World Trade Organization. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents March 2025 South Korea wildfires, Landmarks destroyed by climate change Ongoing climate-exacerbated wildfires in South Korea develop into the worst natural fire disaster in the nation's history after doubling in size over the course of 24 hours, killing at least 26 people and destroying much of the ancient Gounsa temple site. (The Guardian) (Yonhap News) At least six people are killed and 39 others are rescued after a Sindbad submarine carrying Russian tourists sinks off the Red Sea coast of Hurghada, Egypt. (BBC News) Two people are killed, including alpine skier Berkin Usta, and four others are injured in a fire at a ski resort in Uludağ, Turkey. (Metro) Health and environment British environmental activist group Just Stop Oil announces they will end all civil resistance, direct action, and vandalism-related protests immediately and disband by April 26 after the British government announced it will halt the granting of new oil and gas permits. (DW) (Government of the United Kingdom) International relations Belarus–European Union relations The European Union announces that they have expanded sanctions against Belarus to include the Central Election Commission of Belarus for political repression in the country. (Reuters) Law and crime 2025 Amsterdam stabbing attack Five people are wounded in a mass stabbing at Dam Square in Amsterdam, Netherlands. The suspect, 30-year-old Ukrainian citizen from Donetsk is arrested by police. (Reuters) Proposed secession of Republika Srpska The government of Bosnia and Herzegovina issues an international arrest warrant for Milorad Dodik, the president of Republika Srpska, an entity of Bosnia and Herzegovina, accusing him of repeatedly taking actions that could violate the Dayton Accords. (DW) (AP) South Sudanese vice president Riek Machar is detained by security forces following an arrest warrant on "unclear charges", according to his spokesperson. The Sudan People's Liberation Movement-in-Opposition says Machar's arrest has effectively ended the 2018 peace agreement which ended the civil war. (Sky News) Crime in Peru The home of Luis Villanueva, leader of the Workers' General Confederation of Peru (CGTP), is damaged by an explosive device. Business associations condemned the attack and increased demands on the government to strengthen the fight against organized crime. (La Vanguardia)

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(Posted) RD: Ray Barra

Article: Ray Barra (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tanznetz
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Created by Edwardx (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Grimes2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: iconic American ballet dancer, Romeo in Cranko's Romeo and Juliet (Cranko), later ballet master, choreographer and director. The article was basically there, even two refs that looked lost just needed url update. More may come. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:55, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support No issues. According to Scherzo, he died March 27, 2025. Grimes2 (talk) 17:53, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support One cn tag but it's not enough to hold up posting. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:04, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 04:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 Sagaing earthquake

Article: 2025 Sagaing earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A magnitude 7.7 earthquake strikes Myanmar, affecting Southeast Asia and killing at least 21 people. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Bakhos2010 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Dora the Axe-plorer (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I know the article have the short sentence, we're gonna expanding the article for now, and the earthquake event is insane. Bakhos Let's talk! 06:51, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Even though there are no reports from Myanmar yet, there is already a news about building collapsing in Bangkok. Given how rare a significant earthquake Bangkok is, I think it might deserve a blurb. NotKringe (talk) 07:31, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment I reckon "strikes" is a better conjugation for the blurb. With the building collapse in Thailand I think it should mention "affects Thailand" or "Southeast Asia" or something. ―Panamitsu (talk) 07:53, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support - major earthquake, article isn't in bad shape, and will be improved as more information comes to light. Mjroots (talk) 08:17, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support - significant and rare earthquake in a highly populated and globally connected region. Blurb should update to reflect impacts across SE Asia. 202.144.171.99 (talk) 08:22, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Strong Support - Very strong and rare earthquake has occurred in a densely populated area, and subsequent casualty reports may be extremely severe. Nagae Iku (talk) 09:14, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Strong Support As this earthquake has affected in dense areas in Myanmar and Thailand. --Wutkh (talk) 09:22, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support: Extensive international coverage as the earthquake affected Bangkok. A rare incident as Thailand usually does not experience such catastrophic earthquakes. Tofusaurus (talk) 09:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Strong support the quake's epicenter is basically right at Mandalay, a city of 2 million. Considering the damage done in Bangkok 1000 km away, it is unfortunately quite likely to get extremely ugly.

• Support - Major earthquake. --Tupungato (talk) 10:09, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Strong support Major natural disaster involving many casualties ElectronicsForDogs (talk) 10:22, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Strong support this is a major earthquake. ROY is WAR Talk! 11:05, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Posted. sadly I suspect this will be one where the death toll keeps rising so may need tweaking as we go along.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:44, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
  • @Amakuru: Now 191 confirmed dead, so I would suggest at least changing it to "over 150", to more closely reflect the scope. BD2412 T 19:27, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

    I request a change to "over 200" as the article says 213 now. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 21:00, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

     Done thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 23:33, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

  The BBC is reporting 694 now. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 04:03, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  Note that's only Myanmar, there's 10 from Thailand, so it totals 704. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 04:12, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

@Admins willing to post ITN: over 700 now :( Natg 19 (talk) 04:52, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Changed to over 800 per the BBC source linked above. charlotte ^👸♥ 04:56, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

@Admins willing to post ITN: over 1000 now source link from article EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 05:43, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

 Done by Schwede66 charlotte ^👸♥ 05:54, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

@Admins willing to post ITN: over 1600 now, same Article as EmeraldRange 2001:9E8:DA57:3E00:D015:1C1F:9B3C:AD2E (talk) 16:02, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

For small updates like that, WP:ERRORS will get you a quicker response. --PFHLai (talk) 18:14, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support. It also triggered a small tsunami. Count Iblis (talk) 23:32, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) Arrest of Riek Machar

Article: Riek Machar#2025 arrest (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Vice president of South Sudan Riek Machar (pictured) and his wife, interior minister Angelina Teny, are detained, leading the SPLM-IO to declare the 2018 peace agreement void. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The SPLM-IO unilaterally voids the 2018 peace agreement after South Sudanese vice president Riek Machar (pictured) and interior minister Angelina Teny are detained.
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by Bremps (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Ripping up a peace deal is big. Developing Bremps... 19:13, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose + Close This should not be an issue, political arrests are domestic issues, although the ripping up might be an issue, still it is too soon to talk of any reprecussions, see WP:CRYSTAL Shaneapickle (talk) 19:18, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Political arrests are posted on ITN all the time. Just this month, Duterte and İmamoğlu's arrests were posted, and Yoon Suk Yeol in January. Estreyeria (talk) 20:44, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I gave my reasoning "No reprecussions have been coming out of the ripping of peace treaties or arrests" Shaneapickle (talk) 12:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

@Shaneapickle: please don't advocate for a close in the first comment of the nomination, however strongly you may oppose with it. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support Similar crackdown on opposition to the arrest of Imamoglu, though possibly with wider consequences given the declaration that the peace deal is nullified. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:40, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support, noting that [o]ppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one is listed in WP:ITNCDONT. The political ramifications are important, especially since the peace agreement has been declared void – that part is not WP:CRYSTAL. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:07, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support, note that the German embassy pulled out of South Sudan earlier this month due to fears of the civil war restarting. The voiding of the peace agreement would be significant enough to post regardless of the event that caused it. If the conflict restarts while this is still up, I'd support merging or pulling it.

Kowal2701 (talk) 22:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Comment As everyone is saying the end of agreement is the big thing, I would recommend the blurb be flipped to focus on this, and perhaps the agreement article should be the target. Masem (t) 22:13, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  The issue is that we don't have a separate article for the agreement (only a section at South Sudanese Civil War, which wasn't updated), so not an ideal target for a bold link just yet. However, if it is updated before the blurb is posted/becomes stale, I would support bolding it. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:47, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  Didn't make a new article, but I updated the section. Take another look? Bremps... 23:36, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  Not everything needs a standalone article if the context of the topic in a larger one makes the larger one more comprehensive, and for purposes of ITN, is appropriately updated with sufficient text about the update. Editors are getting too hung up on "separate article" standards that dont exist and which harm WP by endlessly dissecting topics. — Masem (t) 11:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Could someone combine and to create one image? Bremps... 22:50, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Done. Nagae Iku (talk) 10:30, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support Same importance as Impeachment of Sara Duterte. ArionStar (talk) 01:46, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support altblurb per above. The voiding of the agreement is internationally significant, and ITN has posted consequential arrests of political figures in the past. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:40, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support Of course a significant political arrest, and judging by the rejection of the peace agreement it threatens to restart South Sudan's civil war. --SpectralIon 04:56, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support per all above. We have also previous ITN like Arrest of Rodrigo Duterte on ICC. ROY is WAR Talk! 11:04, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support—I agree with those who say that the focus should be on the voiding of the peace agreement. Under authoritarian regimes, political opponents are arrested all the time; a peace agreement coming to and end, however, is typically a far more consequential event. Kurtis ^(talk) 15:35, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 03:44, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  @Schwede66 Could you change the image with ? Thanks. Bremps... 19:21, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  Can do. It's currently queueing for protection. Schwede66 23:16, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Now ITN has only three blurbs and two are about Sudan. If the two blurbs are related, can we combine them into one blurb to make space for other news? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.75.95.28 (talk) 06:03, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

They are unconnected events so just because they take place in the same country, it doesn't make sense to combine them as it implies causality between the two. Masem (t) 18:13, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

To clarify, they didn't even take place in the same country. Despite its name, the Sudan People's Liberation Movement-in-Opposition actually operates in South Sudan (although another split from the same original group, SPLM-N, does still operate in Sudan). Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:16, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

• Comment. "Void" is definitely not the right word here. He has repudiated the agreement, e.g. decided that it no longer has effect and no longer binds him. He has not "voided" it which would have been to declare that it never even existed (I'm not sure this is conceptually even possible for peace agreements?). —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:41, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Machar's party said this week that his detention had effectively voided a 2018 peace deal... Bremps... 01:49, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Note: The South Sudanese gov't announced that Machar was charged with plotting rebellion. Not updated everywhere. Bremps... 02:16, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Peter Lever

Article: Peter Lever (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport
Credits:

• Nominated by Joseph2302 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death date not announced but his death was reported today. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:21, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Not Ready + Wait References all over the place, needs fixing, I am going for wait due to fact that his death date has not been announced, Shaneapickle (talk) 15:24, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

meaning this should wait. Shaneapickle (talk) 15:25, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

The date of death is not relevant to ITN, all that matters is when the death was first reported in reliable sources and the quality of the article. Thryduulf (talk) 22:30, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Seems well-cited enough. Bremps... 23:07, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Still Not Ready There is still alot of references jumbled up in a huge mess with no footnotes. Shaneapickle (talk) 12:36, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Upon reading and assessing the article, I agree with Bremps. It's not perfect, but all of its claims are cited with a footnote to a decent-enough sorce; it meets our typical RD standards. Flip^andFlopped ツ 02:54, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) Battle of Khartoum

Article: Battle of Khartoum (2023–2025) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Sudanese Armed Forces liberate the capital city of Khartoum after nearly two years of battle. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Sudanese Armed Forces recapture Khartoum from the Rapid Support Forces after almost two years of fighting.
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

• Created and nominated by Vamos Palmeiras (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Turning point in the conflict, ending one of the biggest battles in Sudanese and maybe even African history. The LIBERATION of a capital city. Vamos Palmeiras (talk) 02:34, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Apoio Um possível início do fim de mais uma terrível guerra atual. (Support A possible start of the end of one more terrible current war.) ArionStar (talk) 03:02, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support, a capital city changing hands meets ITN and this has lots of reliable news coverage. 675930s (talk) 05:56, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support but bear in mind that oral traditions don’t record casualty counts and rarely specific battles Kowal2701 (talk) 08:33, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose This is covered by Ongoing and it appears that the civil war will continue as the RSF are regrouping. The blurb seems to take sides with its use of the word "liberate" and we should be wary of triumphalist propaganda issued by one side. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:52, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  Liberate is neutral terminology. When a state reassumes control over territory it lost during the war, that is just called liberation. 675930s (talk) 18:17, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Comment - first of all the quality is not quite there yet, some citations needed especially in the Background section. Secondly, per Andrew we certainly shouldn't be using POV language like "liberated" to describe a complex battle; I have proposed a possible ALT blurb to state what happened without taking sides. On notability, I'd say if it's definitely confirmed then probably the recapture of a capital city is blurbworthy, but I think we might need a bit more certainty from RS that the battle has definitely ended first. So far this seems to be mainly being qualified by saying it's according to Burhan rather than stated as a definite fact.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:05, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose, covered by Ongoing. Angusgtw (talk) 12:02, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment - It claims that fighting has ended in Khartoum, but it should still be going as there is still fighting in the outsides of the city. But overall Propose alt blurb I think that there should also be a alt blurb stating " Sudanese Armed Forces retakes the City of Khartoum, although skirmishes going on outside the city" Shaneapickle (talk) 12:39, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - see ongoing. — E_F⁵ 12:48, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support – The capital city has been recaptured. Yes, it is in Ongoing, but we do make exceptions for major events like that, and it is probably the most significant development that could have come out of this war. We would certainly post Kyiv being captured by Russia. Also noting that altblurb is preferable as it doesn't take sides by calling it "liberation". Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:53, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support - The largest city in Sudan being liberated by the government is a big deal. Lukt64 (talk) 14:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support - The recapture of the capital and largest city in Sudan during devastating war is major enough to warrant its own blurb. PrimalMustelid (talk) 14:36, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support altblurb. This is the sort of development that warrants posting a blurb.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 14:56, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support ALT1, as it mentions who the old party in Khartoum was. Big ramifications for Africa.

Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 17:57, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support IMO, overrides the ongoing item as a major development in the conflict. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:11, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality Very unorderly article, the article suddenly changes format halfway through into a monthly update, with sections only titled by year. It stops reading like an encyclopedic article and more like a war journal. Abcmaxx (talk) 18:16, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment Is "liberation" WP:NPOV? Bremps... 19:17, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

@Bremps: In my opinion, NPOV is one of those things where the best approach is the time-tested rule of thumb: "If you have to ask..." Kurtis ^(talk) 15:41, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

I think it violates WP:NPOV as one side sees the battle as liberation while another side sees it as a fall. INeedSupport ^:3 16:45, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support alt as liberation is a POV characterization. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 20:26, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support. Use alt blurb as liberate is a value judgment. PhilKnight (talk) 20:41, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Yes nominate this, it is a very important topic this changes almost everything. Liberate does mean to free from under occupation as from I remember. Honestly, why not. We nominate every thing that seems useless why not this? SDUpdates (talk) 20:44, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support I believe the alternative blurb is better. Obviously a major turning point in this conflict and let’s not forget this battle was strategic, major, deadly and in A CAPITAL CITY! NuestroBrasil (talk) 21:03, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Look, the article isn't great, but it's somewhat passable. It's major— imagine Kyiv changed hands. It would be ideal if it were more structured, but this is okay for now. Bremps... 23:05, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support altblurb1. The most major development possible in a civil war. Article is passable, with no outstanding quality issues (although cleanup would be appreciated.) -insert valid name here- (talk) 01:15, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Removed the "Ready" tag - dozens of CN tags and the quality is just not there for posting. Masem (t) 11:53, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
  • Also will add that there's really no update in the article on this event yet, maybe a couple sentences. That's nowhere close to an update to support posting outside of the ongoing entry. Masem (t) 11:54, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support Altblurb as the original blurb violates WP:NPOV. This battle is a significant event in the Sudanese Civil War that will have worldwide political impacts. INeedSupport ^:3 16:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Alt1. Schwede66 03:29, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  Article still has several CN tags and the update is still trivial. should not have been posted in this state. Masem (t) 03:31, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  The Sudanese/South Sudanese situation requires quick post. ArionStar (talk) 17:54, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  ITN does not post quickly if the article quality is not there. — Masem (t) 12:57, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

  Just finished fixing the CN tags! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:12, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 Indonesian protests

Article: 2025 Indonesian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nationwide protests erupt across Indonesia in response to the passage of a controversial military law expanding the armed forces' role in governance. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Demonstrations intensify throughout Indonesia following the enactment of legislation increasing military involvement in civilian government roles.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Rising cases of crackdown against freedom of speech, kidnappings, and fears of militarization spark mass protests across Indonesia.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Nationwide protests against the revision of the Indonesian National Armed Forces Law, which expanded the role of the military, erupted in Indonesia.
News source(s): South China Morning Post, Financial Times, Jakarta Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Kaliper1 (talk · give credit)
• Created by DDG9912 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The passage of this law has led to significant public outcry and nationwide demonstrations. Initiated by Indonesian students, it draws concerns over democratic erosion in Indonesia. Article recently changed from 2025 Indonesian Student Protest to 2025 Indonesian Protests due to the prolonged and recently widened scale of the protest to which has reached its second phase and across all 5 major islands. Kaliper1 (talk) 13:29, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose + Wait This is a domestic protest, we only put the serbian one due to alot of reprecussions it had in the balkans, it is too early to say if there is going to be reprecussions to these protests Shaneapickle (talk) 13:33, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Relevant and important event due to the democratic erosion fears. Even if it is not as "unconstitutional" as the 2025 Turkish protests , which was nominated and posted for ITN btw, it is still notable enough to list into a potential future "2025 Global Spring Protests" article and could still have an effect to the ASEAN (Southeast Asia) regional area, due to Indonesia's size and presence, politically and economically. (P.S. Don't bring up Singapore) SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 15:09, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I think this nomination should wait as we have not seen any reprecussions outside of indonesia. Shaneapickle (talk) 15:12, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

The protests has been ongoing for about a week and occured in the context of a greater act of opposition, which has began since last year. The economic effects are apparent with the falling prices of the IDX Composite several days ago. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:15, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Just would like to add that the mentioned "greater act of opposition since last year" was the 2024 Indonesian local election law protests/Emergency Alert for Indonesia Protests, which even this current 2025 protest also use the same symbol (Indonesian national symbol with an EAS aesthetic background) , but now with different color (previously blue, now black).

Many local Indonesian even consider the current protest as the sequel to the previous 2024 one. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 16:59, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support per SymphonyWizard72's comment. Addressing Shaneapickle's comment, there has been international repercussions, with Indonesian stock prices falling dramatically and condemnation from Reporters Without Borders on the ongoing police violence. There has also been some response from the UN special rapporteur Mary Lawlor. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:11, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support significant and relevant protest. Scuba 15:22, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Now, it has become a long chain of demonstrations with many persecutions occurring. Significant events have taken place during the protests, and they are still ongoing. Namesk1Y (talk) 15:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support as the Turkish ones was posted. ArionStar (talk) 15:46, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support as the protest wave has recently heightened again in the capital city Sididukubanyak (talk) 16:22, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 23:31, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting Support Expecting the effect(s) to be long-lasting in return for the short-lasting reform. –Angga (formerly Angga1061) 06:50, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment. The current ALT1 "military involvement in civilian government roles" has odd wording (did you mean "civil government") that took me some time to comprehend. Meanwhile, "expanding the armed forces' role in governance" in ALT0 immediately understandable and we should it change to that. Hugoaway (talk) 12:27, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

There's similar euphemisms in the article. Secretlondon (talk) 14:43, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Christina McKelvie

Article: Christina McKelvie (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News Sky News
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Drchriswilliams (talk · give credit)
• Created by Thunderwing (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Scottish Government Minister who served in several ministerial positions. Drchriswilliams (talk) 08:20, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Review needed. Schwede66 17:03, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Seems well-cited enough if a bit short. Bremps... 06:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support article looks good to me. Enough coverage of her career and all the content is sourced with RS. _-_Alsor (talk) 09:56, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support per Alsoriano97. Flip^andFlopped ツ 18:29, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 23:46, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

March 26

Portal:Current events/2025 March 26

March 26, 2025 (2025-03-26) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Sudanese civil war Battle of Khartoum RSF occupation of the Khartoum International Airport The Sudanese Armed Forces retakes Khartoum International Airport from the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) and seizes state institutions in Khartoum captured earlier in the war by the RSF. (Al Arabiya) Sudanese military leader and Transitional Sovereignty Council Chairman Abdel Fattah al-Burhan declares the liberation of Khartoum from RSF forces after two years of fighting. (France 24) War against the Islamic State Islamic State insurgency in Puntland Puntland counter-terrorism operations The U.S. military conducts airstrikes targeting ISIS militants in the Golis Mountains as part of a coordinated operation led by AFRICOM. The strikes reportedly kill militants without causing any civilian casualties in militant hideouts located in the Golis Mountains of Puntland's Bari Region. (AFP via 24NEWSHD) (AFRICOM) Colombian conflict A motocycle bomb explosion near a police station in Piendamó, Cauca Department, Colombia, injures 19 civilians. (Yahoo News) Mexican drug war Two off duty police officers were killed and other kidnapped after were ambushed while traveling on Federal Highway 180D, Cardel-Nautla, in the municipality of Vega de Alatorre. Another member was deprived of his liberty during the ambush.(La Silla Rota) Business and economy Tariffs in the second Trump administration U.S. President Donald Trump announces a 25% tariff on all car imports to the U.S. will take effect from April 2. (BBC News) Tanzania hits Kenya with eggs, sausage, milk taxes. (Business daily Africa) Disasters and accidents 2025 Bolivia floods Bolivia declares a national emergency after severe floods kill over fifty people and leave more than 100,000 people displaced from their homes. (Reuters) March 2025 South Korea wildfires The death toll from the wildfires in Uiseong and Sancheong counties, South Korea, increases to 24, with 19 others injured. (DW) Four American soldiers go missing during training in the Pabradė Training Area in Lithuania. A search for the soldiers is underway and an investigation has been launched. (Reuters) (USA Today) The European Commission issues a new preparedness strategy for citizens of European Union member states to stockpile 72 hours of food, water and essentials for use in the event of an attack or natural disaster. (The Guardian) A state of emergency is declared in Slovakia due to foot-and-mouth disease. (Hungary Today) International relations International recognition of Kosovo Kenya–Kosovo relations Kenya formally recognizes Kosovo as an independent sovereign state. (Reuters) Law and crime 2022 Brazilian coup plot The Supreme Federal Court of Brazil unanimously votes to bring former president Jair Bolsonaro and seven others as defendants to trial on charges of attempting a coup. (Folha de S.Paulo) (CNN) German Federal Police carry out raids in six states targeting 17 people suspected to be members of Brigade N'Hamedu, a group advocating against the government of Eritrea by causing violence and disruptions at Eritrean cultural events in Germany. (DW) (Euronews) Politics and elections United States government group chat leak The Atlantic magazine releases the full text of a Signal group chat involving senior U.S. national security officials about recent strikes against Houthi targets in Yemen. In the conversation, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth provides exact times of warplane launches, strike packages, and targets. (CBC) The High Court in Seoul, South Korea, clears Democratic Party of Korea leader Lee Jae-myung of charges of violating election laws, allowing him to run in the next South Korean presidential election, where he is heavily favored to win. (DW) (Maeil Business Newspaper) Science and technology Scientists discover Mongolian dinosaur Duonychus tsogtbaatari. (NBC News)

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RD: Wes Watkins

Article: Wes Watkins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Oklahoma Voice, NonDoc
Credits:

• Nominated by Curbon7 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TulsaPoliticsFan (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former U.S. representative. Article contains a number of CN tags. Curbon7 (talk) 20:12, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Large number of uncited statements and CN tags. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 13:00, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

2025 Abel Prize

Articles: Abel Prize (talk · history · tag) and Masaki Kashiwara (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Masaki Kashiwara is awarded the 2025 Abel Prize "For his fundamental contributions to algebraic analysis and representation theory, in particular the development of the theory of D-modules and the discovery of crystal bases." (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Masaki Kashiwara is awarded the Abel Prize for contributions to algebraic analysis and representation theory
Credits:

• Nominated by Fdfexoex (talk · give credit)

One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Fdfexoex (talk) 05:58, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Kashiwara should be the bolded article but needs quite some work first. Tone 07:08, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I added citations to all the unsourced claims, but his biography is lacking in important details. Ca ^{talk to me!} 10:02, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I expanded the article with additional sources; seems ready to publish now. Ca ^{talk to me!} 15:41, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Comment: I have added an altblurb, but the bolded article is currently a stub TNM101 (chat) 10:44, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose As the articles are incomprehensible to the general reader and so are not of encyclopedic quality per MOS:JARGON and WP:NOTTEXTBOOK. D-module and crystal base have next to no inline citations and lack sufficient introductory prose. "Introductory language in the lead (and sometimes the initial sections) of the article should be written in plain terms and concepts that can be understood by any literate reader of Wikipedia without any knowledge in the given field before advancing to more detailed explanations of the topic." Andrew🐉(talk) 10:47, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

All mathematics articles beyond high school topics are incomprehensible to the general reader, and any lede-level summary of them at a generic comprehensible level would be embarrassingly stupid. Somehow these articles still exist and are in fact quite useful, and your opposition is just wikilawyer trash talk. What would you have? "Kashiwara did great things in advanced topics in mathematics." 128.91.40.237 (talk) 11:04, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

The math artciles aren't the target article for the blurb, so we do not care about their quality or readability. However, the blurb should try its best to explain the significance of these topics if we can (even the Abel Prize's own explanation of the significance [3] gives me little that I could summarizing briefly about his work, though, its that much in the abstract) — Masem (t) 12:01, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Here's some basic maths: two wrongs don't make a right and, per the adage, if you can't explain something simply then you don't really understand it. Anyway, here's how Nature puts it and that seems better than what I'm seeing here

Kashiwara is known for building bridges across seemingly distant branches of mathematics. In particular, he developed algebraic tools to solve tough problems such as differential equations, and he greatly extended the scope of the mathematical theory of symmetry known as representation theory. “He is a master in combining tools from geometry, algebra and analysis to obtain new insights and combinations,” says mathematician Helge Holden, who chairs the Abel Committee.

Andrew🐉(talk) 12:16, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

And here we have it, right on schedule, the know-nothing insulting put-down from a wikilawyering mathsplainer. It's like I said: 99.9% of higher mathematics does not translate in any way shape or form into simple language, accessible to outsiders, unless you turn it into generic, but ultimately meaningless, mush. Nature can get away with the mush because it's simply making a throwaway announcement. An encyclopedia should stay far away from baby talk. (And to all adage-lovers amongst us, meditate upon "don't teach your grandmother how to suck eggs/chew cheese".) 128.91.201.214 (talk) 14:47, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

The IP editor seems to be new here whereas I'm a veteran of such discussions over many years. For example, in 2023, the Abel discussion was not well attended. I was not happy that we didn't have an article about regularity theory which was the subject of the prize that year. So, I got one started and did so in prose with a citation. So, please don't tell me that this can't be done as I'm the grandparent here and I've done it. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:51, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I am not new here, in fact, I predate your account under other IPs. The 2023 award did not have a reasonably decent target article at the time, so your comments here are irrelevant. And no, you did not make things better for ITN at the time, you merely created a know-nothing stub while the relevant article was not posted to ITN. In other words, you did not get it done. And I am a veteran of endless numbers of egg-suckers and cheese-chewers rudely mathsplaining at me while they quote platitudes that prove they are on my level. For what it's worth, regularity theory is still an underwhelming stub, and you Mister Grandfather have been topic-banned on closely related wikiprojects. 128.91.40.237 (talk) 11:25, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

I am just saying that for all main page sections we have zero expectations of quality for non bolded blue links, the quality is always checked for the featured bolded article. Yes, the math articles should start far more basic and abstract for the general reader but that's not an expectation for posting the blurb about the Abel prize. — Masem (t) 13:42, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• The blurb is not supposed to be a substitute for an article. Any reader interested in learning what D-theory is free to click on the relevant link.

675930s (talk) 18:20, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

"D-theory"??? Oh, snap. 128.91.40.237 (talk) 11:34, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Support, the prize itself is significant let alone Kashiwara's contributions. Article is well-cited too. 675930s (talk) 18:21, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Comment: I wish Kashiwara's article gave a more comprehensible explanation of his work, rather than just quoting the Abel citation. The 'research' section of that article is poor (and under-referenced) while 'books' is an excessive list. I've added a bunch of cn tags, which are sufficiently numerous that I cannot support posting yet; but if those are addressed the article does just about meet our minimum requirements. Modest Genius ^talk 14:43, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
  • PS. If it wasn't clear from my comments, Kashiwara's article must be the bold link - we've never allowed that issue to be dodged by making the award itself the bold link. See the note at WP:ITNAWARDS. The original blurb is problematic for multiple reasons, so we should only consider the altblurb. Modest Genius ^talk 18:56, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose This is ITNR, so the significance of the prize is accepted. Per nom however, the target article should pretty clearly be Masaki Kashiwara and not the generic article about the Abel itself. Unfortunately, the Kashiwara article is far from ready - in addition to the CN tags, I agree with Modest Genius that it does a pretty poor job of explaining exactly what it is he has accomplished. Of course, willing to change my vote if the article gets an overhaul. Flip^andFlopped ツ 17:01, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

  I would agree that in Kashiwara's article, his work, while it can be named directly, absolutely needs to be explained "dumbed down" or at least explained what practical applications it can have. Masem (t) 20:34, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

  Sigh: There is no such thing as a "dumbed down" explanation of Kashiwara's work. It's either "dumbed down", using baby talk that explains absolutely nothing but has a feel good buzzword feel, or it actually does explain things like an encyclopedia is supposed to, but on the assumption the reader is at an advanced graduate level. It's been this way for over 2000 years: There is no royal road to geometry. And his work has, so far, no practical applications, but feel free to ask again in 100 years for the minimum of what the article absolutely needs. In the meantime, why don't you start a project of "cleaning up" all the advanced math articles on WP. Say start with Spectral sequence and all its blue links. And if no one gets them up to WP standards, delete the hell out of them. Or at least put up a drive-by tagging about how the lede is too hard, boohoo. 128.91.40.237 (talk) 12:32, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

  I've taken multiple university-level courses in mathematics - admittedly all introductory and not really related to this area of study, but still enough that I am probably more versed than 95% of other people who would ever read Wikipedia.

  I think I should be able to read the article and at the very least be able to come out with an answer to the basic question, "what did he accomplish, why is this contribution groundbreaking"? Looking at the main sentence which covers this, in addition to being completely uncited, it just simply does not provide that insight:

  Kashiwara and Sato established the foundations of the theory of systems of linear partial differential equations with analytic coefficients, introducing a cohomological approach that follows the spirit of Grothendieck's theory of schemes. Kashiwara's master thesis states the foundations of D-module theory [...]

  It would be great if the article briefly explained these concepts, but sure, one could probably figure out what a "cohomological approach" means or what "Grothendieck's theory of schemes" is, by reading their associated articles. However, that still does not explain precisely what the "foundations of the theory of systems of linear partial differential equations" or "the foundations of D-module theory" are that Kashiwara "established". If they've been established, they exist. Things that exist are capable of being stated for the reader and explained. The article currently makes no effort to do so.

  There's no "anti-mathematical" slant or bias or whatever you're implying, just basic quality standards the article needs to meet. Flip^andFlopped ツ 20:47, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support ITN/R on topic poorly represented at ITN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.75.95.28 (talk) 05:05, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
• I agree that Kashiwara should be the target article, and that one isn’t ready over citation issues. Schwede66 16:58, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support It's not stale anymore and the article is now per standards. The oldest news being Indonesian demonstrations that started in February and the arrest of South Sudanese officials on the same day the Abel prize was awarded. I've noticed that many non-admins are closing voting arbitrarily. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Varoon2542 (talk • contribs) 13:38, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

(Closed as stale) 2025 Bolivia floods

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: 2025 Bolivia floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Floods in Bolivia leave at least fifty people dead and more than 100,000 people displaced from their homes (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Leaves x dead instead of kills x, as the verb is being proposed in the wildfire blurb. ArionStar (talk) 02:30, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Unfortunately gonna have to temporary oppose on quality, but just from a quick google search I can't seem to find much more information. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 02:59, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

[4] ArionStar (talk) 03:06, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose This seems to be the annual rainy season there which has been going on for months. The state of emergency seems to be mainly an administrative move to release funds for this issue. Rain and resulting floods are commonplace -- also happening in Australia and Spain currently too. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:15, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  50+ people have died. Scuba 22:31, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  That seems to be a similar number to last year. On average, about 200 people die every day in Bolivia. 50 deaths over a period is not especially unusual. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:45, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Sure, incredibly deadly floods are "normal" (they very obviously are not). That's what they said about the tornadoes on March 14, which ended up being the deadliest since 2021. I don't know what it is about ITN editors thinking every weather event ever is an "annual occurence", but it's annoying. — E_F⁵ 12:50, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Soft Support mass casualty event that has a somewhat put together article. Could use some work though Scuba 22:32, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Annual flooding in various regions of the world often kill hundreds of people but do not get significant reporting if that flooding is not associated with one, singular event and happen over several months. This seems to fall into that. And with climate change that's just gooing to get worse [5], but still doesn't make a good ITN topic due to the long-term nature of the situation. Masem (t) 11:40, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose for now + question If this is just an unusually deadly flooding season, this strikes me as a casualty statistic over a span of time - kind of like a blurb that says, "xx people have died in the 2025 Atlantic hurricane season and thousands are displaced from their homes". 50 sounds like a lot, but if it's over a period of time, then I share some of the above concerns - for example, a quick google search tells me that seasonal casualties hit 60 people in 2014. I suppose what differentiates it here, though, is the declaration of a national emergency. Does this national emergency have broader implications, it is a first time unprecedented development, is its political effects getting widespread coverage in the RS, etc? That's what I feel we'd need to see to take this beyond seasonal flooding. Flip^andFlopped ツ 17:08, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Fuad Noman

Article: Fuad Noman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)
• Updated by PootisHeavy (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Mayor of Belo Horizonte who died in office. ArionStar (talk) 02:05, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support Well cited article despite it being somewhat short. NewishIdeas (talk) 16:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support Per above comment. Well cited and was a well-known politician in Minas Gerais, Brazil who died while in office. --PootisHeavy (talk) 00:59, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 02:19, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

(Updated, Ready) RD: Dick Carlson

Article: Dick Carlson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): TheWrap
Credits:

• Nominated by KingFredFlintstone (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Flipandflopped (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former U.S. ambassador to the Seychelles and director of the Voice of America, journalist, and father of Tucker Carlson. He died on March 24. KingFredFlintstone (talk) 22:05, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

• Weak support There are 3 CN tags which should ideally be fixed first before posting, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if it were posted now. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 04:41, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support Added a few more references for un-cited claims, and removed a few marked with a CN tag for which I actually could not find a reliable source (a claim that he wrote a book about apartheid and that he had a law degree from California Western Law School). I think it's at a sufficient quality level now. Flip^andFlopped ツ 17:45, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support Article generally has good citations and length. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 13:03, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
• Not ready. I’ve orange-tagged one section. Schwede66 16:44, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

  Schwede66, good catch. Found a source to verify all but two of the claims in that section (and added citations/removed accordingly). Hopefully that's all good now. Flip^andFlopped ツ 19:32, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Stef Wertheimer

Article: Stef Wertheimer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Haaretz
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:54A5:5E8:B824:9F32 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Eliezer1987 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Israeli billionaire industrialist, investor and former member of the Knesset. 240F:7A:6253:1:54A5:5E8:B824:9F32 (talk) 11:35, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Seems whole enough. Formatting is a bit odd, though, as everything by definition belongs in his biography. Bremps... 02:16, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Posted to RD Spencer^T•C 22:43, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) March 2025 South Korea wildfires

Article: March 2025 South Korea wildfires (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 27 people have been killed in South Korea's wildfires. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: High number of causalities Sherenk1 (talk) 05:06, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Support . This will likely make news as the largest single forest fire in Korean history and a huge blow to Korean cultural heritage. Coperacchio (talk) 05:17, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Support, it's a big story and wildfires aren't common in the country 675930s (talk) 13:27, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment - Orange tag (although I don't see why it's there). Maybe some WP:PROSELINE concerns. Support on notability though. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 15:49, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Strong support, slightly oppose on blurb. Article is notable and my heart goes out to those affected, however I think this blurb needs a tiny bit more. Thesogra (talk) 18:15, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

What would you think about "The worst wildfires in South Korea's history (Han Duck-soo said this, so not PUFFERY) kill at least 24 people and damages structures of cultural importance" Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 18:38, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Given the mistake when we did the Japan fires, we should avoid trying to assert and superlative claim in the blurb. Just state the fires and the impact (death toll and size) Masem (t) 19:11, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

How about "Multiple active fires in South Korea kill at least 24 people and destroy hundreds of structures"? Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 19:57, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Terrible loss of life and immense damage to cultural heritage. Khuft (talk) 20:27, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

• Strong support and marked as ready. ArionStar (talk) 22:16, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
• Not ready Prose and ibox say that 24 people have died, whilst the lead says it's 27 deaths. What's correct? Schwede66 00:01, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  I was the one that changed the ibox to 24, because I see no source for 27 and the body says 24. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 00:15, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  So why didn't you also update the lead, Wildfireupdateman? Schwede66 00:28, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  Oops, forgot about it. In the meantime, the ibox now says 26 but still not sure where they're getting the 22 from in the Uiseong wildfire, so I'm not gonna change it for now IG. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 00:35, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  I've had another look and at this point, I have the choice of 26 (ibox), 27 (lead) and 24 (body) deaths. With that, I cannot write a blurb, I'm afraid. Schwede66 05:21, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  It's been updated to 28 deaths per Reuters - https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/south-korea-battles-worst-ever-wildfires-death-toll-hits-26-2025-03-27/ Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 16:12, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support fluctuating death county is why there is a current event tag on the article. Scuba 01:32, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support Same significance as Japan wildfires. Moraljaya67 (talk) 01:51, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support Decent article quality. This is a unprecedented fire in South Korea. The death count is now 28. Ca ^{talk to me!} 16:06, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 23:04, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  I don't see it. SpectralIon 21:31, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

  The ITN page history does show that this was posted, but it was quickly pushed off by other ITN topics. Don't know if this should get IAR re-added, as it only lasted ~12 hours on the main page. Natg 19 (talk) 23:01, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

  Yeah I think there was some sort of mistake, Foreman is on there but his death is older than this wildfire nom. SpectralIon 01:59, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

March 25

Portal:Current events/2025 March 25

March 25, 2025 (2025-03-25) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Peace negotiations in the Russian invasion of Ukraine The United States says that Russia and Ukraine agree to cease all military attacks in the Black Sea to ensure safe passage for commercial shipping, while Russia says that it needs guarantees and an order from the U.S. to Ukraine to respect such a deal. (BBC News) (Reuters) Syrian civil war 2025 massacres of Syrian Alawites The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) announces that it has documented the names of 1,628 mainly-Alawite Syrian civilians who were killed in sectarian massacres by pro-Syrian government forces, in addition to several more missing civilians and bodies. (SOHR) Sudanese civil war Darfur campaign At least 54 people are killed in a Sudanese military airstrike on a market in Tora village, Darfur, Sudan. (CTV News) Disasters and accidents March 2025 South Korea wildfires A wildfire in Uiseong County, South Korea, spreads uncontrollably to the north and east, resulting in at least 16 deaths and forcing tens of thousands of civilians to evacuate. (Yonhap) (AP) Aviation accidents and incidents Three people are injured when two Alpha Jet planes from the French Air and Space Force aerobatics team Patrouille de France crash after a mid-air collision during rehearsals. (France 24) A 6.7 magnitude earthquake hits New Zealand causing a tsunami warning to be issued. A tsunami was then spotted in Fiordland. Law and crime 2025 Turkish protests Over 1,400 Turkish civilians, including several journalists, are detained for participating in anti-government protests. (CNN) Criticism of Unification Church in Japan The Tokyo District Court orders the Unification Church to dissolve as a religious organization in Japan. It is the first religious group to be given a revocation order in modern Japanese history. (DW) (AP) Politics and elections 2025 Belarusian presidential election Incumbent Alexander Lukashenko is sworn in for his 7th term as the President of Belarus after winning 85.7% of the votes in the presidential election in January. (AP) (The New York Times) 2025 Gazan anti-Hamas protests Thousands of Palestinian men in northern Gaza Strip take part in the largest anti-Hamas protests since the start of the Gaza war, chanting slogans criticizing Hamas and calling for the war's end. (CNN)

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(Posted) RD: Terry Manning

Article: Terry Manning (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stone
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:A97F:C5C3:F4E8:D4C2 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit) and Flipandflopped (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Recording engineer for the Led Zeppelin and others. 240F:7A:6253:1:A97F:C5C3:F4E8:D4C2 (talk) 15:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article had two longstanding CN tags, including one which was placed there in 2017. I addressed both of them, as I was able to quickly find obit sources which affirmed the previously un-cited claims we had within the article for so long. Seems good enough now. Flip^andFlopped ツ 02:51, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
• Unreferenced date of birth. Schwede66 05:44, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  Schwede66, it just wasn't ever specifically referenced but it is included in some of the obituaries that are used as citations for other claims within the article. In any case though, I just added a footnote to an obituary from a magazine, which specifically includes the birthdate. Flip^andFlopped ツ 17:11, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

+Posted – Schwede66 18:00, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Masahiro Shinoda

Article: Masahiro Shinoda (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Jiji Press: Japanese Film Director Masahiro Shinoda Dies at 94
Credits:

• Nominated by Jaguarnik (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Japanese film director. Jaguarnik (talk) 07:56, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support Good article, not missing citations and an important film director. NewishIdeas (talk) 15:40, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Unreferenced date and place of birth. Schwede66 05:43, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  @Schwede66, I fixed this and cited the filmography. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:57, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  Support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 18:06, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Posted already, by Schwede66. --PFHLai (talk) 18:20, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) 2025 Balochistan protests

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Article: 2025 Balochistan protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A series of protests and economic shutdowns emerge throughout Balochistan, Pakistan in response to early police crackdowns on protests stemming from the Jaffar Express hijacking and regional human rights abuses. (Post)
News source(s): Arab News Dawn ANI News
Credits:

• Nominated by PrimalMustelid (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Significant series of protests and shutdowns of business throughout Balochistan that has been ongoing since 20 March in response to repeated acts of police brutality towards the Baloch community's acts of protests, especially when they escalated their acts by shooting at and killing several protesters and later arresting Mahrang Baloch, the BYC chief and one of the leaders of the protest organizations, on 22 March. PrimalMustelid (talk) 16:17, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Not Ready due to the fact there was no foot notes in the first paragraph or introductionary part of the page. Shaneapickle (talk) 16:24, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Added citations for the lead paragraph. Sorry about that, this is my first time nominating a page on ITN. PrimalMustelid (talk) 16:29, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment: Something I would like to note is that the protests had also occurred in Karachi, a city in the separate province of Sindh, on 24 March (although authorities moved to ban the gatherings). Should the article's title and the blurb change to reflect that? And if so, what title should it be, especially considering that there is currently a separate series of protests in Sindh held against canal projects? PrimalMustelid (talk) 01:08, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment If the blurb is not updated to also mention Karachi, it could be helpful to specify that it is taking place in Balochistan, Pakistan rather than other parts of the wider region of the same name. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:49, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Updated. PrimalMustelid (talk) 23:30, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

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(Posted) Melsonby Hoard

Article: Melsonby Hoard (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A large Iron Age hoard found in Melsonby has been revealed at the Yorkshire Museum (pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Archaeologists announce the discovery of the Melsonby Hoard, a large collection of Iron Age itens (example pictured), in a field near Melsonby, North Yorkshire, England.
News source(s): BBC, The Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by Geopersona (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Stronach (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: This big archaeological find has been kept secret until now to deter treasure hunters. Our article has just been started, thanks to Geopersona, and will no doubt be expanded as more details emerge. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:39, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Weak support right now, this is a very important find one of the largest ever found in the UK, yet the article does have a bit of a contradiction at the moment. It says at the top that it is being housed at the Yorkshire Museum yet at the bottom it says the museum is merely trying to raise funds to purchase the collection. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 12:22, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

The Museum is displaying the hoard but doesn't own it. Presumably the landowner and the finder have the lion's share. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:39, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Weak support per Chorchapu Shaneapickle (talk) 12:25, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

• Comment I'm not seeing any peer-reviewed paper associated with this (going even to the Durham pages on it), which is usually necessary to verify age, origin, etc. It's not that I'm doubting the archeologists here, but that's generally the metric for historical finds like this. Masem (t) 12:38, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

• They have been working on this for four years and their priority has been to stabilise the artifacts before analysing them. Multiple respectable institutions are involved including the British Museum and Durham University Archaeology Dept. The hoard seems similar to a smaller hoard discovered nearby in 1845 and so there don't seem to be any especially controversial claims. The situation seems similar to the Tomb of Thutmose II which we posted recently. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:49, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

• Images Presumably there has been a publication embargo which lifted today as more material is appearing out there such as some fine CC images at the Portable Antiquities Scheme. The example (right) is already on Commons. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:17, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
• Strong Support Major news in the field of archaeology. Article looks good. Khuft (talk) 21:00, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
• Strong Support Alt. Impressive. ArionStar (talk) 22:32, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support Alt blurb. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:36, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
• Re blurb The alt blurb is bad. No-one says "Melsonby, England" – that's an Americanism contrary to MOS:TIES. And it's not the Museum which announced the discovery. Per the CNN coverage, the main people issuing a press release are the people who did the bulk of the work -- Durham University. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:18, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

  "Archaeologists announce the discovery of the Melsonby Hoard, a large collection of Iron Age itens (example pictured), in a field near Melsonby, North Yorkshire, England"? ArionStar (talk) 23:30, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 03:28, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Anti-Hamas protests in the Gaza Strip

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Article: 2025 Gaza Strip anti-Hamas protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Anti-Hamas protests calling for the end of the Gaza war spread across the Gaza Strip. (Post)
News source(s): NPR, CNN
Credits:

• Created and nominated by LunaEclipse (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Evaporation123 (talk · give credit), Yeshivish613 (talk · give credit), The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk · give credit), Rafi Chazon (talk · give credit) and Stephan rostie (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: As many outlets have pointed out, this is a particularly rare event, and thus notable enough for ITN. 🌙Eclipse (she/they/all neos • talk • edits) 01:02, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - There's literally protests all over the world, these don't rise to the level of the latter three. — E_F⁵ 12:47, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose a few hundred protesters. Far from a serious earth-shattering political shakeup. I question why this article exists and isn't a section in the Gaza war article. Scuba 01:34, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment I say we wait for a few days to see if the protests would gain more traction. It's still significant given such protests are rare.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 03:12, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support article looks well referenced and these are the biggest protests since Hamas took power nearly two decades ago, where they enjoyed previously very high levels of political support as well. Protests don't have to be successful to be posted, in fact increasingly few protests are. Hamas is also an authoritarian islamist terrorist organisation ruling over a war zone and what has been described as a de facto "world's biggest open-air prison" therefore any protests against their rule are incredibly rare in an environment where freedom to protest is extremely curtailed and dangerous. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:41, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  these are the biggest protests since Hamas took power nearly two decades ago

  Your premise is false, this is actually the smallest protests to occur since Hamas became the governemnt of Gaza, there have been larger and more significant anti-government protests than this two-days few hundred individuals protest. see Gaza protests Stephan rostie (talk) 13:33, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  @Stephan rostie: Those other protests weren't specifically anti-Hamas though. The 2011–2012 ones were against the PNA, the other two since were due to economic situation, and the border one was mostly organised by Hamas against Israeli border policy. Abcmaxx (talk) 18:01, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  Slightly off-topic nitpick, but that's not the reason why Gaza is described as an open-air prison.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 17:45, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

@Vanilla Wizard: I never suggested it was, but I'm sure you'll agree that the conditions for protesting are less than ideal given this fact. Abcmaxx (talk) 18:05, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose First, as Gaza is back in ongoing, this would be covered by that. Second, we simply cannot keep posting every single large protest since multiple are happening across the globe at any time, there needs to be some immediate impact of that, whether if its because the protest turned violent and/or required significant police activity to constrain, or that there is a govt action in response (like an official stepping down). Just posting that a protest happened isn't really useful for ITN because of how frequent these are. Masem (t) 12:39, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose. I agree with most editors here, a protest organized by few hundred people that lasted two days isnt significant enough to have an entire article dedicated to it. Otherwise we should have an article about the israeli anti-government protests than encompassed hundreds of thousands of people at its peak, or an article dedicated to the thousands of american jewish protesters who at the white house protesting israel’s assault on Gaza. I dont think we should have an article for every single protest organized by dozens or few hundreds. Stephan rostie (talk) 13:27, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

@Stephan rostie The article exists because protests in Gaza, specifically against Hamas, are rare. We don't have an article on the DC protests because there's tons of protests in DC and only a select handful get notable media attention, and we actually do have articles on the massive-scale anti-government protests in Israel. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:44, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose Good faith nom, but the bar for posting something covered by ongoing is fairly high, and this doesn't meet it. There were nominations about widely covered massacres and the discovery of mass graves that weren't posted because it's covered by ongoing. And I don't think these protests seem major enough to warrant posting even if it weren't covered by ongoing. There's not really any known impact of these protests so far, and these probably don't make the top five largest protests happening right now.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 17:42, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per Masem and Vanilla Wizard. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:44, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

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