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Find correct name The airport is not listed as João Paulo II anywhere. The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo.

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Category:History of Portugal: lots to remove there
Template:Regions of Portugal: statistical (NUTS3) subregions and intercommunal entities are confused; they are not the same in all regions, and should be sublisted separately in each region: intermunicipal entities are sometimes larger and split by subregions (e.g. the Metropolitan Area of Lisbon has two subregions), some intercommunal entities are containing only parts of subregions. All subregions should be listed explicitly and not assume they are only intermunicipal entities (which accessorily are not statistic subdivisions but real administrative entities, so they should be listed below, probably using a smaller font: we can safely eliminate the subgrouping by type of intermunicipal entity from this box).

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Section size for Portuguese language (30 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	13,207	13,207
History	17,408	17,408
Geographic distribution	11,947	36,534
Official status	5,703	5,703
Lusophone countries	6,091	6,091
Portuguese as a foreign language	9,068	9,068
Future	2,642	2,642
Current status and importance	1,083	1,083
Dialects, accents and varieties	1,198	36,978
Portugal	5,178	5,178
Brazil	25,153	25,153
Other countries and dependencies	1,902	1,902
Characterization and peculiarities	3,547	3,547
Vocabulary	8,466	8,466
Classification and related languages	6,822	21,843
Galician-Portuguese in Spain	8,579	8,579
Influence on other languages	5,633	5,633
Derived languages	809	809
Phonology	7,075	17,497
Vowels	2,821	2,821
Consonants	7,601	7,601
Orthography	85	236
Portuguese Language Orthographic Agreement of 1990	151	151
Grammar	2,325	2,325
Sample text	1,225	1,225
See also	675	675
References	17	7,272
Citations	31	31
Sources	7,224	7,224
External links	1,345	1,345
Total	165,011	165,011

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Fifth or sixth language with more native speakers

The text says "usually listed as fifth language with most native speakers" but the linked Wikipedia article shows it as number six, maybe it was the idea of just saying "usually listed" or maybe it is worth correcting? Shimizee (talk) 21:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The tables that show the proportion of native speakers and total speakers are incorrect

The tables that show the proportion of native speakers and total speakers for a multitude of countries are incorrect. The fact is that the Ethnologue data is not properly aligned with the actual government-produced data of some african nations, particularly of Angola and Mozambique. The angolan 2014 census reveals that 71% of angolans use portuguese as their primary language and 85% speak it in total. On the other hand, the 2017 mozambican census results state that approximately 17% (16,5%) of mozambicans have portuguese as their primary native language (which is also paralleled by Ethnologue), but that 58,1% of national citizens understand and speak it (which is not aligned with Ethnologue data). The hyperlinks for that information are already duly provided in the brazilian version of this page in the wiki. Please consider lovingly this suggestion for an edit. Filipe Fortes de Oliveira Portela 16 (talk) 13:13, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Updating the number of Portuguese speakers

Hey everyone,

I’ve noticed the numbers for Portuguese speakers on the page feel a bit outdated. For example, L1 257m and L2 17m looks like it’s from older estimates and doesn’t really match what’s happening now, especially with growth in Brazil, Angola, and Mozambique.

I’d suggest bumping it up to about 260 million native speakers and 290-300 million total (native + second language). Something like:

Brazil: ~211 million Portugal: ~10 million Angola: ~20-30 million Mozambique: ~13-15 million Plus the rest (Cape Verde, Guinea-Bissau, diaspora, etc.) That’d put Portuguese around 5th or 6th for native speakers and 7th or 8th overall, which feels more accurate for 2025. I got this from stuff like Ethnologue (which is pretty current), recent censuses from Brazil and Mozambique, and CPLP reports. I can dig up exact links if needed, or just use a safe range like 280-300 million to play it cool.

What do you think? If it looks good, I can make the edit, or I’m happy to wait for your feedback to tweak it. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Like56d (talk • contribs) 07:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Like56d, please do not change any numbers on the page without also including at the same time a citation to the source where you got it from. Mathglot (talk) 08:41, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]